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Jack Conte, Ryan Lerman
Monday, November 17, 2025
About this episode
This week on Dead Wax, Jack and Ryan sit down with Dan Wilson, Grammy-winning songwriter and frontman of Semisonic. Dan discusses his fascination with imperfect lyrics—the ones that stay in, reveal the writer’s hand, and make a song uniquely human. He explores the beauty in flaws through the work of Leonard Cohen, Kacey Musgraves, Smokey Robinson, Phoebe Bridgers, and Prince. In the extended Patreon episode, Dan dives deeper into the lyrical worlds of Joni Mitchell, Bon Iver, Frank Ocean, and Ben Folds.