About this episode

I joined my Times Opinion colleagues Ross Douthat and Michelle Cottle to discuss the debate — and what Democrats might do next. Mentioned: “The Biden and Trump Weaknesses That Don’t Get Enough Attention” by Ross Douthat “Trump’s Bold Vision for America: Higher Prices!” with Matthew Yglesias on The Ezra Klein Show “Democrats Have a Better Option Than Biden” on The Ezra Klein Show “Here’s How an Open Democratic Convention Would Work” with Elaine Kamarck on The Ezra Klein Show Gretchen Whitmer on The Interview “The Republican Party’s Decay Began Long Before Trump” with Sam Rosenfeld and Daniel Schlozman on The Ezra Klein Show Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com. You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.